Highlights, the role of cross sexual Asian cooperation.



As the assistant director and head of Labor and Civil Service Division at the Asian Secretary, facilitates and coordinates Asian sector of cooperation.



My workers in civil service matters.



Per experience spans abroad. Human development issues, including social protection.



Bogus plan, be fun.



You have one of the time of reduction, education.



She has participated in the development of the other decorations. Regional fantasy frameworks.



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Ladies and gentlemen, as well.



So, yeah, it's, it's, it's, essentially, I'm a ticket.



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I was still up there, I have 6 minutes to do a brief introduction.



Actually, weird.



What I'm going to introduce, which is about the framework and action plan on real transition.



It's something that many of you are already aware.



So this is just to refresh what you already knew.



When we discuss about promotion of green jobs in SAL, this is not something.



The development has intensified in the last give and take a decade.



And we would like to thank, in particular, ministry of human resources in Malaysia. Strong leadership since a decade ago.



Yeah, we did.



Through the initiative of the development of HCM declaration, on proper English jobs, which was then adopted by Labor Ministers in 2018.



And that committee was reiterated in the joint statement of the ministers last year.



A company that joint statement is the translation of the commitment into the priority areas of actions like regional level, which are stipulated in the framework and action plan for the next 5 years. Which I'm about to introduce after this.



Yeah. Accompanying this uh free work in action online.



The conductor, the same job for room, is cemented, you know?



It started in 2024.



And we're going to look into 5 next year.



Yes.



And so it looked like it was all registered, appreciation to the government of Australia, GIZ and other partners, and we've been very supportive to the success of this.



We are not lacking information.



Some baseline studies have been conducted.



The original study on Grinja policy, readiness, misconducted in 2021 for a friend of Dr. Samantha President, yeah, and she also introduced the rapid assessment yesterday to look into the progress in the 1st 5 years.



And clearly, it's the region, there has been one significant, if anyone on the policy, right?



In some rooms for it.



And following which, next year, we pay for the full fledge, uh, comparative notices.



Also, the regional analysis on demand and supply for green jobs and green skills was introduced.



And you heard the presentation of Dr. Dario's that there are 5 areas of recommendations, including one particular recommendation that I thought is important to continue discussing it, which is how to pair renewable energy with the workforce plan.



How to create more demands for green jobs and translate those occupational requirements to competency frameworks.



I think there's a need for continuous dialogue on this particular recommendation.



Dr. Pariona also presented, which apologized.



I did like mention on this ice slide.



The initiative on bringing TV.



I keep in the use of carry methodology.



Seeing the readiness of the system.



I'm not making it...



You know, we hope.. That this ecosystem...



For particular reason that Malaysia has initiated the estimation of two, not one, but one.



Excellence, one is one great job center for excellence.



And this is, again, formalized in the framework infection plan.



We hope for the fundamental initiatives ready to kick off next year.



And under the MSME sector, the center of excellent or MSMP and green transition was launched this year.



And I believe now they are in the ongoing discussion to finalize the terms of preference.



So if I look for, are you a?



If we discuss great jobs, in skills, we need to really streamline into the broader economy and sustainable development.



In Asia, there are other relevant instruments and also initiatives, which we believe those are very relevant needs to be mutually reinforcing in order to promote coherence, especially when we discuss about the needs of these things.



If the green job promotion, we need to really streamline just to pick up a few examples.



We have instruments, commitments, on blue economy, uh-huh, uh, continuality, uh, circular economy, and these are led by other different Asian bodies.



We have also networks in the region to promote village and rule development.



Corporation on sustainable tourism.



Sustainable agriculture and environmental education.



So there are many other initiatives.



How do we ensure that the promotion of workforce ready for reading of industry and technology, that's really streamlined in those other commitments. Ensuring that any budget allocation for those initially also take into account the need for the potential. Temptation with skills and labor resources.



Oh, but not.



Thanks.



As 5 key objectives.



Essentially, to promote policy coherence, Stakeholder collaboration.



Strengthening labor and skill initiatives and policies.



Ensuring that when we talk about green skills, green jobs, it has to be just an inclusive.



Meaning social protection, wages, uh, need to uh, looked into.



After preparing skills, um, uh, development and develop institutions, we want to make sure that there are enough graduates, wanting to build career, uh, in green sector.



If there are other sectors promising higher wages, how can we ensure that they are enough workforce to stay in the green sector?



So all these have to go hand in hand.



Knowledge exchange, research, uh, all of the uh, cooperation at regional level is important to promote holistic approach.



There is no, um, fixed definition of what is green job and green scale at Asian level, but for the purpose of the implementation of the framework, there is this broad, uh, definition of a, essentially, if we look at it, Green jobs are jobs that help to protect and restore ecosystems and biodiversity, reduce energy, materials, water consumption, and so on.



There is a wide range of industries involved.



And so, therefore, when we continue this discussion, it's important that we continue to engage the ministries of uh, trade and commerce and also the Asian, uh, business association, uh, in in our region.



This is the house framework of the, uh, action plan with the 3 objective and uh, corresponding outcomes to achieve.



I will not go into the details of this, but what I would like to highlight here, 2 points, one.



We need to build the ecosystem.



When we talk about green job promotion, and second, we cannot separate the discussion between green jobs and digital skills.



My technology in the.



The skills to Uh, base system of the car.



Cross-sectoral considerations that we need to look into.



And I believe, oh.



Am I exceeded 6 minutes?



Yes, 00.



Uh, broader cross-sectoral consideration, there are 5 of them.



Uh, I would like to highlight the 1st and the last point, the 1st one is the need for sector specific roadmaps.



I think we touch upon this since yesterday that, but we, we haven't gone into uh, deeper conversation on this.



How do we go about this?



Sector, specific roadmaps.



Secondly, Creating financial mechanism to share resources and support workers, how?



We are not lacking of plans and initiatives, but resources are important to get things uh, moving.



Governance and implementation.



Uh, the labor sector uh, is identified in the framework as the leading sector to track progress and implement the action plan in collaboration with other sectors, and also other uh, stakeholders, including trade unions, private sector, civil society, academ, and development.



Uh, partners.



So we cannot move ahead alone, but we have to collaborate with one another.



So I think I stop here.



This provides enough entry points for your further sharing on how do we go about this at regional level, to advance green job promotion.



Thank you.



Thank you.



It's mega.



Our next percenter is Miss Wii Lim, director for EY Asian Economic Advisory and Public Policy.



Who will share a brief synthesis of the forms, recurring insights, and emerging recommendations.



We as a director of EY Singapore with over 70 years, 17 years of experience in economic analysis, strategy development, and public policy.



Her areas of expertise span economic transformation, labor markets, and workforce development, green and digital transitions, skills development, and the implications of emerging technologies. Including artificial intelligence for jobs and workforce readiness.



She has extensive experience working with governments, international organizations, and businesses across Asian and the broader Asia Pacific region.



With particular focus on translating economic, technological, and environmental change into practical policy and workforce strategies.



Prior to joining EY, we held roles with the ancient infrastructure Investment Bank and Central Bank of Malaysia.



She holds a BA and an MA in economics from the University of Cambridge.



Ladies and gentlemen, it's VE.



Thank you, and a very good afternoon to everyone.



Over the past 2 days, we have heard a rich range of perspectives on the green jobs transition.



Day one, focus largely on the demand side.



How industrial transformation investment technology and decisions by enterprises are changing jobs and skills.



Today, we focus more on the workforce response, how skills and T-Vet systems can respond, and how labor market policies, social dialogue, and social protection can support workers through that change.



I will not try to summarize 2 very rich and productive days, or cover every point on the slides that I have.



Instead, I would like to highlight 7 broad beams that emerged around 3 larger questions.



First, can we better understand and anticipate the workforce transition?



Second, how can we ensure workers can participate in and benefit from that transition?



And third, how can we continue strengthening the link between ambition, policy, and implementation?



Let me start 1st with the definition and measurement.



We heard that countries and institutions may define and measure green jobs and green skills differently.



This is not simply a technical issue.



What we define affects what we measure.



And what we measure affects what we can see.



If we focus only on jobs in obviously green sectors, we may miss the transformation that are taking place within existing occupations.



A technician may still be a technician, an engineer may still be an engineer, but their task, technologies, and skills may be changing.



So the issue is not simply how many green jobs we have.



It is about understanding where demand is changing, which jobs and tasks are affected, and which skills may be increasingly needed.



Better labor market information can help connect investment and industry transformation to changing jobs and tasks, and ultimately to skills development.



For Asian, greater compatibility can also support mutual learning and help identify emerging needs, while ensuring member states approaches to national context.



A 2nd theme was the relationship between green and digital transformation.



Technology can enable the green transition and create new opportunities.



But we also heard that technological change can disrupt existing jobs and display some workers.



This suggests value in looking at green and digital transformation together. Including both the opportunities they create.



And the transitions they require.



For workers.



What ultimately matters is the combination of capabilities needed to perform changing jobs.



And this is not only about preparing young people, much of the workforce in Asian, will depend already, sorry, much of the workforce Asian will depend on tomorrow is already working today.



So reskaling and upscaling the existing workers will be critical.



And that leads directly to my next team.



This brings me to our 2nd question.



How do we ensure that all enterprises, including the smaller, medium sized enterprises, and workers, can participate in and benefit from the transition?



Different workers, sectors, and communities may experience the transition differently.



New investment and technologies will create opportunities, but some occupations will change significantly, and workers may have different abilities to access those opportunities.



Importantly, the objective is not simply to create more green jobs, but to ensure that these jobs are also decent jobs.



This means looking at the quality of jobs, including workers rights, social protection, and occupational safety and health.



This is particularly important as new technologies, production processes, and working environments may also bring new or changing workplace risks.



Skills are an important part of this, but offering training alone may not always be enough.



Workers may face training costs or lost income.



Some informal workers may have more limited access to formal training and certification, and workers may have relevant skills that are not yet formally recognized.



So we need to think about skills, recognition or prior learning, decent work, occupational safety and health, and social protection together.



The question is not only whether new green skills are being created, it is also whether workers can access those opportunities, whether the jobs are safe and decent, and whether workers can benefit from the transition.



This connects very closely to the next theme on social dialogue.



The discussions highlighted the value of engaging workers and employers early and meaningfully through the transition.



Employers bring insights into changing technologies and skills needs, workers bring insights into how these changes affect jobs, tasks, and workplaces.



And government has an important role in enabling this dialogue and helping to translate it into policy and implementation.



We also heard the point that the public sector can lead by example, Including through its own role as an employer.



So effective social dialogue is about bringing these perspectives together to support a transition that is practical, responsive, and exclusive.



The 3rd broad theme is delivery.



Importantly, attend member states are not starting from zero.



Across these 2 days, we have heard examples of strategies, frameworks, programs, and partnerships that are already underway across the region.



The opportunity is to build on this progress and continue strengthening the connection between ambition.



Policy and implementation.



This is where measurement comes back into the discussion.



Beyond understanding the skill of employment, measurement can help us understand whether interventions are achieving their intended outcomes.



For example, whether workers can access training, whether training supports pathways interrelevant employment, and whether employers can access the skills they need.



In other words, measurement can help us move from checking activity towards understanding impact.



Implementation also brings us to coordination.



Green jobs cut across economic policy, industry, labor, skills, environment, social protection.



They also involve government, employers, workers, training institutions, and other partners.



Many of these partnerships and coordination mechanisms already exist across Asian.



The opportunity is to strengthen the connections between them so that economic transformation informs skills, development, and skills development translates into opportunities and outcomes for workers.



No single actor can do this alone.



And finally, financing.



We heard considerable discussion about investment in the green transition, but there is also the question of how we finance the workforce transition and how that responsibility can be shared.



Training creates benefits for workers, employers, and the wider economy.



But those benefits may emerge over time and be shared across different stakeholders.



This is particularly relevant for MSMEs and for workers who may face financial barriers to reskilling.



So as investment in the green transition continues to grow, workforce development also needs to be part of their broader financing conversation.



Drawing across these discussions, we have compiled 5 emerging recommendations.



Common definitions and indicators, integrating green and digital skills, making training inclusive and accessible, strengthening recognition or prime learning, and strengthening meaningful social dialogue.



I would add 3 considerations.



First, our 10 member states have different starting points, priorities and national circumstances.



Regional cooperation does not mean uniformity.



It can provide useful common reference starting points while allowing approaches to be adapted nationally.



Second, regional cooperation is most valuable where it complements and strengthens national efforts.



This could include shared approaches and tools, more comparable labor market information, exchange of good practices, and greater recognition and portability of skills.



And third, these recommendations are interconnected.



Definitions and indicators strengthen the evidence base, Evidence informs policy and skills development, skills opportunities need to be accessible, social dialogue can strengthen design and implementation.



And all of this requires effective coordination and sustainable financing.



So if I leave us with one overarching reflection from these 2 days, um, it is that green jobs conversation is increasingly moving from the what and the why towards the how.



And Asian and its member states are already taking important steps.



The opportunity now is to build on that progress and strengthen the connections between investment, industry transformation, skills development, decent work, worker support, and implementation.



Ultimately, our objective is not to create more green jobs only.



It is to ensure that jobs and opportunities created through the transition are also decent, safe, and accessible, and that workers are equipped and supported to participate in and benefit from this transition.



This means connecting the different parts of the agenda.



And these issues do not sit only within one policy area.



The transition cannot be delivered by one institution or one group of stakeholders alone.



The opportunity is to bring economic transformation and workforce development together, while keeping decent work and workers well-being at the center of the transition.



And that naturally brings us to the discussion that follows after this.



What can each part of the ecosystem contribute?



Where can coordination be strengthened and hopefully critically?



Where can our cooperation at value?



By complementing and strengthening national efforts.



While respecting the different priorities and circumstances of member states.



So with this, I hope the presentary reflections from the 2 days provide a useful start to the panel discussion that follows.



Thank you very much.



Thank you very much for a very insightful presentation, which captures 7 key themes, 5 recommendations across the 2 days.



Thank you, E. And now, to move forward, allow me to introduce our moderator.



Rutora D Babaran is the director of the Human Development Directorate at the Asian Secretariat.



She oversees Asian cooperation across health, education and skills, youth and sports, labor and civil service, poverty eradication, and gender.



Her experience spans human development, social protection, and regional policy cooperation.



Prior to joining the Asian Secretariat, she holds senior roles in the Philippines Department of Social Development and Social Welfare Development.



Including leading the country's conditional cash transfer program.



She holds a master's degree in development management from the Asian Institute of Management, in a bachelor of science and social work, from the University of the Philippines.



That is all welcome, director Rhodora T. Babarana.



Joining her are our panelists.



Our 1st panelist is Miss Gwyneth Chan, manager of the International Relations at Singapore's Ministry of Mankower.



I mean, it in our current role supports Singapore's international labor engagements across Asian, Apex, and bilateral platforms.



She works with regional and international partners to advance Singapore's interests in deep end cooperation on labor, employment, and workforce issues.



Our next panelist is Miss Debbie Soria Putri.



Trade negotiator at Indonesia's Ministry of Trade.



Devi is working in the directorate of Asian negotiations.



Her work focuses on Asian economic cooperation and international trade negotiations, including trade in goods, sustainable development, and the green economy.



She has represented Indonesia's economic interests in the Asian senior economic officials, and economic ministers processes, and is involved in negotiations on the Asian Korea free trade agreement upgrade.



Prior to her current role, she served as the staff to Indonesia's vice minister of trade, supporting international trade matters and domestic initiatives on market digitalization.



She holds a master of commercial law from the University of Melbourne and a bachelor of law from universities, universitas, gaja, madam.



Our 3rd panelist is Mr. Tran Vietnam, desk officer at Vietnam's Ministry of Agriculture and Environment.



His work covers training and professional development programs.



The management of the ministry's affiliated universities and colleges.



Science, technology, and international cooperation, and education and training.



Digital transformation and innovation, and the state management of youth affairs.



He's attending the Asian Green Jobs Form 2026 as the representative of Vietnam nominated by the Asia Asso in Vietnam.



His focus is on developing human resources and institutional capacity to support Vietnam's screen and digital transition and the agriculture and environment sector.



I now turn this over, panel, to our moderator, director, of Adam.



A very good afternoon, everyone.



Thank you to our MC for making a very comprehensive introduction of everyone that saves a lot of time for me as the moderator.



So let me 1st um, start by thanking Mega and Hui E for their insightful presentations.



So mega highlighted the Asian perspective on implementing the framework and action plan.



And emphasize the importance of collaboration across sectoral bodies and stakeholders.



On the other hand, Miss We, synthesis, brought together the key messages, emerging from our discussions over the past 2 days, and highlighted practical areas for Asian cooperation.



Can deliver impact.



So, I think it's important that, you know, we, uh, we gave much time to introduce our panelists because it just says that they are the right persons to be in this, uh, panel.



Apart from representing their countries, uh, I hope they will be also wearing the hat of their respective sectoral bodies.



So Gwyneth comes from Singapore and she also wears the hat as Islam, Singapore, from labor.



And Miss Debbie, uh, is representative of senior economic official of uh, Indonesia, and Mr. Tran is representing um, senior uh, official of environment for Vietnam.



So let's all give them a warm round of bonus before we begin.



Yes, that's for motivation.



Okay, so building on the perspectives shared earlier by mega and Hui.



This panel will broadly explore how Asian can translate the framework and action plan into focus, practical cooperation, while respecting the national, Circumstances and priorities of the member states.



Our discussion has 4 focus areas.



First is uh, we'd like to distinguish between those that, uh, those initiatives that can be led at the national level versus those that uh, are better led at the regional level.



Another focus would be to consider the regional foundations that could strengthen the implementation of the regional framework and action plan on green jobs.



And 3rd, to examine how Asian bodies across labor, um, trade and environment, uh, other sectors.



Uh, can contribute and wear stronger cross-sectoral organization and ownership.



I need that.



And finally, for the 4th vocals, we wish to identify unlimited set of practical actions.



That we could possibly identify in terms of owners, partners, resources, and next steps.



And hopefully this can be something that's practical and implementable.



And we might be able to update them even before the next green jobs for room.



So before we begin, let me have a very quick housekeeping note.



We have approximately 30 minutes for this discussion, and 10 minutes for audience Q and A later, and 5 minutes for the closing summary.



So I would uh, Gently request our panelist to keep their interventions to about 2 minutes per question.



So I will be directing some questions to you in different rounds.



So let me begin.



So this one is directed to all our panelists.



Um, how can Asian member states advance, adjust, and inclusive transition to green jobs and skills in ways that reflect national circumstances, and where could Asian level cooperation add distinct value?



And if possible, uh, please give uh, concrete examples.



Can I start with you, Gwinnett?



All right, um, thank you.



Um, I think importantly, that I think has been um, shed across this forum or, um, in base, um, sharing just now and also in, um, Miss Rhodora's, um, her intervention just now about respecting national, um, policies and existing circumstances.



I think a lot of the policies are a lot of the work, can be nationally led 1st because the opportunities, workforce needs, and all the sectoral priorities associated with the green tradition or digital transition will actually naturally differ across all our members states, because of the different economic structures, differing priorities as well as the different labor market conditions.



But where RCM can actually come in is actually on facilitating the sharing of experiences between our member states to actually leverage on collective wisdom.



So the different areas such as labor market information, skills anticipation, industry engagement, workforce transition measures, and social dialogue, they may all particularly benefit from regional cooperation and knowledge exchange.



So perhaps the complete example would be, um, Singapore recently hosted the leaders in tripartism program earlier in May.



Yeah, yeah, in May, where we actually sort of brought in our tripata leaders from all across our member states as well as our +3 countries to actually share Singapore's experience in terms of tripartism as well.



So we actually gather over 40 participants for the event where we actually share regional knowledge and strengthen the regional knowledge on tripartism.



So perhaps this is where Asian or you can really see the true value of Asian of collaboration and knowledge exchange.



So I think that is where as our member states can actually come together.



Thank you.



Thank you, Greenette.



Debbie?



Thank you, Ibu Rotoro, for the opportunity.



Good afternoon, everyone.



So, uh, I would try to give uh, perspectives from the trade and economic policy, uh, about this issue, and I would like to highlight the importance of policy, dialogue, about uh, green jobs, especially in the economic pillar, where the as an economic community, um, strategic plan, 2026 and 2013.



Uh, state that we need to mainstream the uh, climate, uh, response, um, policies into uh, in any uh, in all uh, policy sectors.



So I think, uh, through the policy dialogue, uh, we could mainstream what's constitute as green jobs, what's the significance of green jobs and how uh, our workforce could adapt to the green transition itself.



And under the economic pillar, actually, uh, the trajectory of um, sustainability and grain economy discussion is uh, in a good uh, trajectory.



Uh, why can I say that?



Because, uh, the current negotiation in FDA in free trade agreement, we try to incorporate the sustainability and green elements into the FDA.



For instance, uh, last year, we just signed the uh, Atiga upgrade, which is the Asian trade in goods agreement upgrade, where we try to incorporate the sustainability and green uh, elements to it.



For instance, uh, we try to uh, incorporate the pre-manufactured goods, uh, in the, in that agreement, and also, uh, we try to support the, um, investment, uh, green investment and green projects within Azaan by creating, um, creating a great, um, uh, great environment for the green investment to In Azaan.



So I think the 1st is to, um, maintain the policy dialogue and the 2nd one is to, uh, enhance the green elements in the FTA and as N plus one FTA.



Thank you.



Thank you, Devi.



I think that's a very good development in terms of the economic pillar, especially in the upgrade of the FDAs.



Whereas before in the earlier versions of the FDAs, there were no such provisions, but now you're integrating this, you know, green and climate and sustainability.



Just a very quick follow-up.



When you said that when you mentioned the examples of FDAs, are you referring to regional or multilateral FDAs or also applicable to country level free trade agreements?



I mean, the bilateral ones.



Oh, well, actually, um, uh, I mentioned about the regional level, uh, FTA, and other than the Atiaga upgrade, we also have the Asian, Australia, New Zealand free trade upgrade, where we have a specific chapter about, uh, sustainable development and green economy, and currently, we are also negotiating with Canada and Korea, and we will try to, um, incorporate the sustainability and green economy elements. To it as well.



And as for Indonesia, we also have the Indonesia, Canada, Sepa, where we try to incorporate the green economy or elements to it as well.



Thank you very much.



Excellent clarification, at least in terms of the FDA, it can apply to both regional and national level.



Mr. Tran, your turn.



So what do you think are the initiatives that are better?



Let the national compared to those that are to be led at the regional level?



Yep, you direct, let me bring the environment and architecture perspective.



If I'm a last, say, a print, just doesn't happen in the rural economy.



Our program to develop 1000000 had that, of high quality, low image and right is a may come down that approved by the PM in November 2023 cover, uh, Chia province.



It shows half from a work.



Let's see, let fertilize, better water management and measurement and mission.



Uh, by not uh, 2000, this year, uh, the program helped riggs around uh, not, 350, uh, 5000 hag, almost double, eat 1st 5, 30, as a mini, she helped, expanded into one.600000 hectare.



This morning, the Isaiah already tells us 22% of job in Asian.



Have green potential and agriculture lead.



That's our experience.



Uh, the changes, the mostly about grinnings, uh, people already do.



Every country will have its own empty point, for some, 20, it's electric vehicle, for us, energy, for the tourism, for us, it should be agricature.



As in, uh, not need harmonize these part way.



This value by giving us a common language and common to, so that's our nation can be compared, recognize, and learn from.



Thank you.



So it's very good that you highlighted, you know, what are the tools and instruments that are very useful for as a member states?



You know, if these are produced at the regional level.



So that the country can also align and do its own national initiative. That will be comparable and, you know, in harmony with the regional commitments.



I think that's a very good segue to my next question.



The next question is about, what regional foundations, tools, or resources would most help Asian member states anticipate, and respond to changing green jobs and green skills needs.



While it is open to all our panelists, I would, uh, like to direct this question to Gwynette, please.



Okay, um, I think from the labor perspective, it is really about knowing our data and getting the correct information.



So we have been talking about good data and good information in driving good policies, but not just in terms of driving good policies, but also in assessing our policies as well.



So even if we put out a policy, we need something to measure whether this policy actually works.



And strengthening this aspect in terms of discussing, um, Oh, sharing information about our Effectiveness of the different national policies is also very important.



So I think working on strengthening labor market information systems is quite a important thing that, um, from the labor perspective that we hope to be able to push for as well.



So, I think, um, in terms of the green jobs, and the green transition, we have actually built quite a solid foundation in terms of the different reports that we have coming from Rakon twin as well as from the ILO as well.



So maybe perhaps building on this existing reports and analysis on current national policies could actually help in terms of the regional knowledge sharing of what policies works and what policies do not work as well.



So, I think um, building on all these reports and assessments are quite critical.



Thank you, Gwinnet, for that.



So we're not just stopping with LMI and other initiatives to enhance the data sharing because that one is already ongoing with support of our partners, but more than that, you're emphasizing the need to do policy analysis or policy evaluation to whether to see whether, you know, the policies that are adopted at the national level are really, you know, serving their purpose.



Thank you for that.



Um, my next question, uh, will be about, um, will be about coordinating uh, cross-sectoral uh, bodies and uh, with other stakeholders as well.



But, uh, while again, this is open to all panelists, I would like to invite Debbie to particularly answer this one.



So, how do you think relevant as in sectoral bodies can work together more effectively?



To connect green economic and sectoral transitions, with job creation, records, development, and skills, Miss Debbie.



Okay, so uh, when we talk about brain jobs, I think the sexual body that closely related must be slum.



But given the cross-cutting nature of the green jobs and green transition, of course, uh, slum itself cannot uh, fulfill all the gaps, right?



So I think there should be, um, another, um, platform across uh, sexual bodies, and I, if I could, uh, pinpoint, there is a one sexual buddy in, uh, under as an economic pillar.



Uh, which is the Asian focal group on circular economy, where, uh, in that, uh, focal group, uh, comprises of the senior, uh, official label, from slum, COM, storm, transportation, energy, which, uh, actually, um, can uh, coordinate and correspondence to address the green jobs and green transitions issues.



So I think enhancing the uh, current mechanism that we have, which is through focal group on circular economy, could be an advantage for Asian to accelerate to the green transition.



Thank you, Mr. V, before I turn to Tran, um, Can I also open the same question to the other panelists?



Because this is about connecting the work of the various sectoral bodies.



So the mandate on implementing the framework and action plan sits squarely on the labor ministers with support of the senior labor officials meeting.



So, but but this framework, at this platform that means Devi was talking about, is under the economic pillar.



Although there is membership from the, uh, other sectors as well as labor.



So um, Gunette, what do you think should be the role of slum in that particular platform under the circular economy?



Um, I think, because long, you'll provide, obviously, the labour perspective in terms of maybe perhaps providing the considerations for just an inclusive transition in terms of the circular economy.



And I think providing, um, labor perspectives in terms of Perhaps, um, What is important for our workers or even for our tripartite partners as well in terms of the industry, the employers as well.



Because I think the circular economy is so wide, but it's also something that we have to take into account, not just our workers, but also of all our industry players and employers.



So from the labor perspective, we could possibly be able to provide some inputs on that as well.



Thank you very much for that.



I know that was unexpected, yes, but it's just that labor plays a very important role because of its leadership on this regional framework and option plan.



And, um, I, I think that, um, the, the, the uniqueness of the Asian labor sector compared to the other sectoral bodies in Asian is that this is the only sectoral body that has, uh, social dialogue component that really involves tripartite partners.



So I think, you know, you bring in that kind of perspective, you know, with whatever mechanism or platform you go into.



Thank you again for that.



Um, now may I move on to Mr. Tran?



So from the environment sector, uh, perspective, um, what, what, what do you think are the practical approaches or experiences from member states?



Uh, that could inform the implementation of this framework and action plan, and what barriers need to be addressed for this effective approaches to be implemented or scaled.



Yep, thank you.



So, uh, so one lesson from our experience is as good as you metric the people who actually train the family.



Um, back to, um, my, my story because I would write program, plan training for more than 1000000 participating in my 2013.



The tech group include chain, obtain, corporate, manager, agriculture, extense, and office, local officer, farmer, and company technical.



The company, as a community, tension worker is innocent, a green job in his cell.



This morning, I just study made the same point.



Booker, with green potential, eleven, older, less educated and self-employed.



So, Tivet alone, we not trick them.



They need different.



The sort model, of course, uh, recognition of the skills they already have and the it and the service.



And this is exactly how our right program worked.



And you also view on what ADB said yesterday.



Green skill, uh, sectors, specific and firm, needs them be for the nation or demand, skill.



The barrier we see in similar.



Limit the chain, and even data at local level, and the code for small products to chain.



This one is a link between training, finance, and market, accept metal, from a move when they buy it, and apply for greener products on the zest, and inclusive signs, the program include training on gender, equity, and social.



It glisten for corporate, with a woman's union and local social protection, start taking back.



Organizing small order into a cooperative, also how we make sure they're not left behind, like new standard and new method.



Thank you.



Thank you, Mr. Chan.



I think that's a very, very nice example from Vietnam on how you're involving as many stakeholders that are involved in the entire ecosystem.



Uh, as much as possible and then making sure that there is participation and um, equal benefit, even those 2 uh, who are in vulnerable situations.



Thank you again.



Now, uh, let me move on to, uh, My next question.



So this would be, um, applicable to uh, all panelists.



Um, sorry, I think I missed the.



I missed, uh, the same question being asked to miss, uh, Debbie.



Devi, um.



Uh, I would be asking you the same question as Mr. Chen if that's okay.



So, are there um, practical approaches or experiences, um, say in Indonesia that could inform the implementation of this framework and action plan.



What barriers need to be addressed for its effective implementation or scaling?



Um, well, actually, uh, to address this question, I think my colleague from Babanas would have a better, uh, better, um, answer about it.



But if I could add, um, in order for other member states to uh, identify what skill set that we need to enhance for green transition.



I think, um, It takes a lot of, uh, effort.



I mean, uh, not all as a member states have the capacity and capability to uh, gather such information.



For instance, in Singapore, they currently have a specific program to enhance the information about the skills.



Uh, needed to uh, adapt to the green transition and uh, for Indonesia.



Of course, we also need to do such assessment as well, but I think, uh, we, uh, uh, in the regional level, uh, we could incorporate, uh, uh, the, uh, cooperation in the scheme, uh, ecotech, economic and technical cooperation in the FTA, where we could, um, um, Where the dialogue partners of Asayan could provide the, um, um, technical assistance or capacity building for the other member states.



Um, to adapt to the green transitions.



Maybe if, uh, we need some assistance or a study or assessment, we could utilize such scheme under the, uh, acotech scheme in the FDA.



Thank you very much, Debbie, for highlighting that one.



As earlier pointed out by Gwynett, you know, member states have varying levels of readiness or, you know, development in terms of this area.



And it's good to know that many dialogue partners are actually interested in helping as a young, uh, in this agenda.



So that's a very important point that you raise.



Now, for all the panelists, um, I would like to invite you to, please identify one priority action, probably not the one that you have already mentioned, but, uh, one priority action, um, the, the possible owner or lead body.



And the partners and resources required, and possibly the next steps that could be taken before the next forum.



So this is a big ask, I understand, so just, uh, try to try your best to answer.



May I start with Ms. Bennett?



Okay, I think, with the green sensation and the need to actually rescue an upscale, we maybe perhaps, as as our member states, could encourage our workers to rescue and upscale, beyond just providing opportunities, I feel like, the workers themselves, they have to see the need to rescue an upscale and to treat themselves as well.



To take on all the causes.



So, for instance, I think in Singapore, we started with our skills future practically as something for our Singaporeans to just pick up new skills, be it, like, um, gardening or wine tasting.



So it may not be relevant to your job or your career path, but it exposes your people to the need to rescue or to learn new skills to sort of enrich your life as well.



So, with this mindset that we have developed quite early on, and now with this green transition and the need to constantly rescue, our Singaporeans are actually much more open to actually participate and to take on all these different causes and training.



So perhaps maybe in the other SM member states, um, they may also want to try to encourage their workers or and try to instill this mindset of lifelong learning across all your citizens.



And which is what Singapore has been trying to push for as well. And we try to encourage our citizens as well.



So I think this might be an aspect that I hope can, we can see the change yet.



Thank you, Granette.



So, uh, it's very important that you highlighted lifelong learning and um, encouraging the citizens to, you know, to have that desire, to really upscale, uh, or reskill themselves, not necessarily, you know, in line with the current job, but, you know, uh, many other opportunities present.



Miss Debbie, same question.



Um, yeah, from me, uh, I think it's important for uh, as I am to utilize uh, the mechanism or platform that we currently have.



For instance, uh, we just established the Ace MSME, as in, uh, center of excellence for MSME, where we could, um, give some capacity building for the MSME, in Azean to, um, involve themselves to the supply chain or green transition.



So, uh, it would be better if the, uh, ASMSME could be the platform for the, uh, MSME and Azayan to upscale, uh, theirselves, uh, and also, I think, uh, it's also important to involve the Azayan business advisory council, as they comprises of, uh, businesses which, uh, Also the employer.



So, uh, it would be great if, uh, the Azan Bach, uh, or the members of Azan Bach could, um, provide like a training program or internship program for MSME or the Tibet students.



So that they can adapt faster to the green transition.



Thank you very much.



Those are very, very important points and recommendations.



Mr. Tran?



Same costume.



Yes, personally, as I'm my purple 3 particle priority.



The 1st one is a common, uh, reference on green, uh, cup, and skill for 2 or 3 priority sector, including agriculture.



Should be viewed on the ILO, green dictionary pilot, and the ZIX, uh, study present at this forum.



Removable energy already propelled as a pilot sector for corporation.



Agriculture should be next to it because that's either way most green potential lie.



S O M L, could lead with some and the environment and agriculture body contribute, sector, input, uh, L O N, Z, I, as a nature fender, a practical next step, your 1st wrap, uh, for one sector by the next 4 room.



Secondly, it's a regional training of chain program on colonist, snap, archicature, and I miss a measurement, which sort model, and macro, curry, and curry, and all that from a can type wise, I work as a relatable, so get this morning.



It could run throughout exacting TV.



And development partner.



This is could come from programs that already, finance, agriculture, and climate projects.



As on ADB service today, so that's ex-environment, investment carry a training component.



Now, finally, like, coordination, according, listen, agreement, name, folk, poi, in slum, S-O-M, at, um, end of, A S-O-N-E, for the framework and essent plan.



A short joy, progressive note each year, and a regular environment, sector, contribution, disease problem.



These need, uh, little new money.



It may needs a Asian secretary to convey and accept sector of body to nominate for good point.



There are, um, more step, but they can solve Risa, which is apparent, uh, acid black.



Thank you very much, Mr. Jana.



I think those are very concrete suggestions in terms of pre-priority areas on agriculture, in finance, and investment and climate.



Okay, so I think we have about.



About 9 minutes for audience QNA at this point, allow me to entertain questions from the floor if there's any.



I know we're very close to the closing, but yes, wonderful.



We have a question there from the Gentleman.



Kindly introduce yourself and uh, please state your question briefly and tell us, um, to which pandas you want the direct your question.



Thank you.



Yes, my name is Alishandra Sarmento from Timor Leste.



I'd like to ask Dr. Devi Surya Putri, another panelist can respond to this question as well.



But I think they'll be mentioned about Asian economic development plan 2026, 20230.



I just wonder, because we have uh, We have spent these 2 days, and I think that's something that is less talked about.



Is the ecosystem services.



Um, in the form of, for example, nature-based cardboard credit program.



Where in the region, for example, in team or less, they, uh, in one of the projects that I know, they have managed to sell more than 35,000 carbon credits in international markets.



And I think that in Indonesia, they also run a carbon credit program.



Um, internationally certified by UK-based uh Plan Vivo Foundation.



Yeah.



Uh, so I wonder whether that plan talks about nature-based ecosystem services, both land and maritime marine ecosystem services, because these are Also green jobs.



And green jobs that are undertaken by local farmers in informal sector.



But they do very, very important jobs.



Um, we live in a region that is very, very rich.



We are naturally endowed, uh, Filippine and Indonesia alone have more than 25,000 islands.



We are rich in minerals in gold and silver in our ocean, in our land and forest.



But this also presents a challenge.



You see, this week, We have forest fires in Calimanta.



It's affecting Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore, and part of the Philippines, and also my country, Tim Morleste.



Um, What is in that plan?



That talks about Joint management, the monitoring, of our resources.



Because I think that a lot of green jobs come from this sector.



Uh, Red Place Project, ARR, a forestation reforestation and great vegetation.



Uh, so I'd like to hear your uh, idea and the content of the that plan. On this sector.



Thank you very much.



Okay, so before Miss Debbie answers, I would invite others as well if there is another question from the floor.



Otherwise, we will just go with that uh, one question.



Okay, so yes, madam.



Hello, this is Rosa from AYO SAU organization.



So my question is going to be very quick, but I would like to know from all 3 pedalists.



That from the ask you, they have you mentioned about, right?



My question is how can you maintain that of skill from your purpose team?



Yes.



Sorry, can you can you repeat the question?



Okay, so the question is, you have mentioned about the upscale, right?



And I would like to know, how can we maintain that of skill?



How can we make not sure that the skill can be last long from your point of view?



Yeah.



All right, so, okay, thank you for that question.



We will stop at that for now because of the time limitation.



Uh, is that V, would you like to answer?



Yeah.



Um, thank you for the question.



Uh, actually, uh, I'm, to be honest, I'm not really expert on the carbon credit and, um, and it's, uh, surrounding policy since, uh, in Indonesia, uh, about the carbon credit and carbon trading is, uh, under, uh, other agency, which is, um, OJ Ka.



Yeah.



The other agencies.



So I would try my best to answer.



So, um, um, if I'm not mistaken, in the AEC, uh, strategic plan 202620, uh, 30, um, it doesn't really, uh, talk much about the, About, uh, the carbon trade, but I do agree that during, uh, the past 2 days, we don't talk much about, uh, economic, um, initiatives, uh, in Azean.



Meanwhile, The green transitions and also green jobs is closely related to the economic issues.



So perhaps next year, if there is any S and green jobs 2027, it would incorporate more about the economic issues or economic. Initiatives.



Um, and uh, if I could recall from the, uh, yesterday's presentation, actually, the agriculture sector have a huge potential for more than 50% for, uh, the, um, agriculture workforce, if I'm not mistaken.



So I think, uh, Asian have a huge potential in that area and we need to untap, uh, that area to maximize, uh, the, uh, grid positions, uh, potential.



And I think we should talk more and help more, uh, dialogue in order to untap such a huge opportunity show.



Thank you, Devi.



That was a challenging question, but you answered it very well.



Thank you very much.



Um, can I direct the question from our used representative to Gwinnett?



Because Singapore has a quite longer experience when it comes to lifelong learning and skilling or risk skilling.



Yeah, um, I think as, um, as Rodora mentioned about lifelong learning, um, I think with regards to reskaling and upscaling yourself, there really is no, Like, I guess the sad truth is that there's really no end to the need to upscale yourself or to rescue yourself because of how fast things are actually changing.



I think we have constantly be talking about the need to adapt to the green transition, the blue economy, digitalization, AI, there's just so many changes in the world that we need to just constantly obscure and rescue ourselves, but perhaps in a way that we are clear in terms of our career aspirations as to what we want to do, and perhaps in Singapore, we have the job transformation map, which I mentioned yesterday about guiding our workers, the skills that they might need in terms of their career to make sure that this continues to stay relevant.



So I think, The unfortunate truth, as I mentioned, is to just constantly rescue yourself and to keep up with the trends.



I think with the constant support, maybe perhaps from your employers, from the government.



We will be able to sort of maintain this peace, to continue, to be relevant and to continue to learn and obscure ourselves.



Thank you very much, Gwynette.



Okay, so I don't see any more hands raised from the floor.



Uh, with about a minute remaining to our time.



Allow me then to very quickly wrap up this discussion.



So distinguished delegates, colleagues, and friends, as we conclude this panel discussion, allow me to highlight a few messages that, uh, have emerged in this discussion.



First, advancing green jobs and green skills requires naturally led action that reflects each member states, circumstances, priorities, and institution.



As in cooperation should complement these efforts where regional approaches can provide distinct value, including through shared learning, comparable information, and collective tools.



Second, stronger regional foundations can help member states anticipate and respond to change.



Uh, these include greater alignment on definitions or probably taxonomies, improve labor market intelligence, is stronger, green Tibet systems, practical support for um, micro, small medium enterprises, and sustained knowledge sharing.



Third implementation requires shared ownership across Asian bodies, responsible for labor, education, skills, trade, and economic development, environment, and other related areas.



Clearer roles, stronger coordination, and more systematic engagement across these sectors will be essential to connect economic and sectoral transitions with job creation and workforce development.



And finally, the framework and action plan must move from broad priorities to unlimited, but achievable set of practical actions.



This will require clarity on possible owners, partners, and resources, together with concrete next steps that can demonstrate progress before.



We meet again.



So our discussion here is therefore underscored the importance of balancing national leadership with purposeful Asian corporation.



Building the regional foundations for implementation, strengthening cross sector of coordination, and maintaining a clear focus on delivery.



So before I end, let us all thank our panelists for their sharing of time and knowledge in this panel of discussion, and I thank you all for your active participation.



Once again, thank you, Goodness, Devi, N, N, Tran.



It has been my pleasure moderating the session, and I will now hand over the program back to our host.



Thank you very much.